Dropsies Continue To Plague Lions

Wednesday, August 5, 2009

Because practice is open to several fans (today being open to a swarming general public) many have been able to report their own observations from Detroit's training camp in Allen Park.

And although they aren't necessarily of a professional degree, there are certainly some consistencies among the quasi-reports. Among them? Detroit's receivers have a tough time holding onto passes.

According to The Den user Sandman7773, the Lions receivers -- Calvin Johnson included -- dropped passes on Wednesday. And a lot of them.

"Calvin dropped a lot of passes today," he wrote, correctly noting that Johnson had experienced a hand injury earlier in the day. "A lot of dropped passes today."

Minus Bryant Johnson, who continues to miss time with a non-football injury, and two tight ends (Brandon Pettigrew, Casey FitzSimmons) the Lions have played musical chairs with the receiving game during the camp. Despite his troubles on Wednesday, Calvin Johnson, trade acquisition Dennis Northcutt, and Keary Colbert have been the most consistent pass catchers in camp.

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Delmas, Others, Miss Wednesday's Practice

The Detroit Lions held out several players from Wednesday morning's practice session, including rookie safety Louis Delmas, according to mlive's Tom Kowalski.

Delmas had swelling in his knee following Tuesday's afternoon practice. The injury isn't considered serious, and he will be listed as day-to-day. The same applies to receiver Calvin Johnson (right hand), who told Kowalski "I'm fine, it's not bothering me. Fellow safety and possible starter Daniel Bullocks (knee), tight ends Brandon Pettigrew (thigh) and Casey FitzSimmons (ankle), DT Grady Jackson, and RB Maurice Morris (leg) also missed practice, according to Kowalski. The Lions don't anticipate any of the players missing much practice time. Most of the moves were for precautionary reasons.

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Lions Preseason Blog Buzz

Tuesday, August 4, 2009

With the credentialed media folks gathered in Allen Park, I thought I’d take a moment to point out some of the great work being done by our fellow bloggers:

  • DetFan1979, who some of you may know from his Blogspot blog, has a new blog up, Roar of the Lions.  He visited training camp, and posted an outstanding diary of his visit.  He got a lot of good looks at the offensive and defensive lines, as well as a great view of some linebacker drills.   He wraps it up with a touching story about his small daughter and Charlie Sanders.  Great stuff.
  • This one’s not for the faint of heart—or pure of mind!—but Neil at Armchair Linebacker wrote a brilliant piece that, in all its profane, Gonzo glory, completely captures everything that it means to be a Lions fan.
  • For an outside perspective, Steelers blog Steelers N’At is working their way through a 32-team preseason preview.  They just posted their Lions breakdown—and while their predicted final record (2-14) won’t make most Lions fans swoon, they definitely did their homework, and made solid observations.  It’s a good look into what other teams’ fans think of the changes made by the new Lions brass.
  • Yardbarker’s doing a series called the “Juggernaut Index”, a look at every team’s offense in terms of overall fantasy football potential.  The Lions, in their estimation, rank at a position that doesn’t start with a “3”!  Predictable praise for Megatron is mixed in with some surprisingly nuanced, in-depth work.  It’s a nice read.
  • Finally, DrewsLions over at Pride of Detroit put up a nice piece trying to cover both extremes of the 2009 Lions: first bathing them in a warm, optimistic glow, then casting a deathly pallor over them, then giving you an honest piece of his own mind.

Of course, stay tuned here at the Blue Blog for all of the very latest news, insight, and analysis—and hit the jump to The Den to discuss it all with the largest Lions community around!

Will Delmas' partner at S please stand up?

Culpepper vs. Stafford? Nah. We all know how that one ends, eventually.

What's shaping up to be the biggest competition of training camp is who will start at safety opposite rookie Louis Delmas (who's already looking great and cemented his position).

Tom Kowalski at MLive.com reports that while there's no official depth chart yet, Kalvin Pearson has been playing with the first unit opposite Delmas. Daniel Bullocks, who started 15 games last year, has gotten time with the second and third units, Killer writes -- but that could be just because he was limited in practice due to injuries earlier in the year.

Then there's newcomer Marquand Manuel, who started 14 games with the Denver Broncos last year.

Writes Killer:

Pearson averaged 10 tackles per game in his first four games of full-time duty but then his play started to drop off. Before a season-ending 10-tackle game against the Green Bay Packers, Pearson was averaging just five tackles for the previous seven games.

Pearson is 5-foot-9 and 200 pounds, and his lack of size might have been a contributing factor, but Pearson doesn't buy it. Neither does Schwartz.

"If you said size was an issue last year for (Tennessee cornerback) Cortland Finnegan, he's 5-9 and maybe 185 pounds, but he's incredibly durable," Schwartz said. "I don't want to put (Pearson) into a box, so to speak, and say he can't hold up for the season. I want to keep an open mind and give him an opportunity."

Pearson puts his production drop on his playing every special teams down while starting.

And the winner is ... Anthony Henry? A lot of folks speculate Henry's future is at safety. But I'm starting to think that might not happen, for the simple reason that CB doesn't look like a position of depth or strength. If a third CB can emerge allowing Henry to be shifted, the Lions abysmal secondary will get slightly deeper and a little more talented.

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Peterson: Avril can be elite pass-rusher

New Lions LB Julian Peterson said he looks forward to teaching DE Cliff Avril his pass-rushing tips, Nicholas Cotsonika reports at Freep.com.

"I'm just letting him know he has the talent to be one of the better pass rushers in the league," Peterson said at Lions training camp. "He has a good frame -- not the biggest guy, but strong enough to hold his weight and fast enough to be like a linebacker, too.

"It's good to have him out there turning the corners, bending the corners, because most tackles are scared of speed, and he possesses a lot of it."

Avril is one of those Lions who's shown flashes that he can be more than good. It's possible he's got a major breakthrough in him. Peterson -- who's been around a little -- seems to recognize it, too.

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Jim Schwartz Running a Different Kind of Camp

Monday, August 3, 2009

By now, many of you have read and heard about the start to training camp. As Tom Kowalski reported , it was a rough day for Damir Boldin, Ephraim Salaam and Sammie Lee Hill who all failed a mandatory conditioning test (and then subsequently passed it later).

However, reported today by Nicholas Cotsonika over at the Free Press is that Larry Foote believe this football camp is tougher than camps over in Pittsburgh. First off, lets get a few things straight. The Steelers practice smart, not necessarily hard. Most importantly, they don't do a lot of early two-a-days, trying to ease their players into camp and building up to the season. Secondly, hard camps do not equal great teams. Marinelli had a tough camp too. However, what we can take out of this first snapshot of a Schwartz-run camp is this: Players, both rookies and veterans are fighting for spots and being held accountable in a variety of ways. .
  • Daily QB battles between Culpepper and Stafford for both bragging rights AND earning more practice snaps.
  • Dylan Gandy getting snaps at first team center.
  • Ramzee Robinson running as nickleback.
Foote says the opening of camp has never been this physical for the Steelers--even under Cowher. Time will tell if the physicality increases from here, and if the Lions can stay healthy. Discuss it in the Den!

Oh, No, They Say Drew’s Got To Go . . .

On Saturday, new Den forum poster cajunrajan shared his firsthand observations from Lions training camp.  Especially interesting was his take on the quarterbacks:

“Culpepper was on fire all day long.  He was hitting everything.  Definitely his job to lose.  Stafford was fine, and hit most of his passes, but also had a few shaky ones that simply were not good throws. However, the ball comes off his arm like a missile, his arm strength is incredible.  Stanton was terrible.  He can't hit the broad side of the barn, and he had one insanely bad interception which Anthony Henry took the other way for a TD.”

Perhaps in response to that last line, poster reneboater started a new discussion entitled “Stanton Must Go!”:

“This is his 3rd year and he just doesn't seem to impress. He would be a wasted roster space with no future! Pick someone who can step in should he be needed!”

It’s certainly tempting to watch Drew Stanton practice, and decide that he doesn’t have what it takes to play quarterback in the NFL.  It’s fairly obvious that that’s what Jim Colletto and Rod Marinelli did in 2008—remember Colletto’s line that he wouldn’t want Drew to “embarrass himself”?  It’s true, Stanton’s arm is extremely inconsistent.  Sometimes, he can place a deep out with zip.  Often, he either doesn’t place the ball, or it doesn’t get there with zip.  Occasionally, he can’t make that throw at all.  With DS, you have to expect that extraordinarily gifted throwers like Stafford and Culpepper will show him up in shorts-and-T-shirt work (observers report Saturday’s practices were not in pads).  However, Drew Stanton’s worth is not in what he does in 7-on-7.  The reason Drew Stanton deserves a spot on the Detroit Lions roster is for what he does in games.

In case anyone forgot, let me remind you of his 2008 preaseason stats.  Drew went 7-of-8, for 85 yards and a TD, including a 50-yard bomb that landed right in Brandon Middleton’s breadbasket.  As most should remember, what very, very little regular season work Drew got in 2008 involved hitting paydirt with his first NFL pass.  Drew’s a gamer, and you can’t really evaluate him without taking that into account.  Schwartz himself has said so:

"He flashes. He hasn't been quite as consistent as I'd like at times,'' Schwartz said of Stanton. "The one thing that's going to happen with Drew is that Drew isn't the classic drop-back passer. He's going to make plays off-schedule a little bit and sometimes you don't see that at practice. You don't see the quarterback scrambling around in practice and extend the play and tuck the ball and run and those things. Those are the plays he made in college, that sort of defined him as a quarterback, that he could make those plays. We'll see that a little bit more when we get to preseason games. It's a little bit hard to read that style of quarterbacks in the stuff we're doing out here because you're throwing everything from the pocket in practice."

It’s obvious that the Lions are considering adding a more experienced arm to the mix, having worked out Cleo Lemon, Craig Nall, and Brooks Bollinger on the eve of camp.  Stanton’s chances diminish further if Duante is leading the Lions to a successful season; they’d have no experienced backup as they hit the homestretch.  However, so far the Lions have made no moves, and Stanton remains on the roster.  Once the armor is donned, the lights go on, and the Lions face the enemy in preseason battle, Drew Stanton will get the opportunity to prove he can make plays and win games for this team—and might face the Turk if he can’t.

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NY Times: Lions awful at choosing O-linemen, DBs

For those who grumble that preaseason stories are relentlessly positive and hopeful, I give you a rather caustic assessment of the Lions by KC Joyner, "The Football Scientist," at the New York Times' NFL blog The Fifth Down.

Joyner points out that before last season he wrote that the Lions seem to be OK to good at building certain parts of their team. (But he lists LB, D-line and RB as areas the Lions do fairly well personnel-wise, which to me lessens his credibility. Linebacker and D-line have been underperforming and thin, and beyond Kevin Smith, RB hasn't been even decent.)

But the Lions, Joyner said, can never seem to get solved their offensive line or defensive secondary. And at least the secondary should be one of the easiest personnel pieces to solve, he said, because it comes down to pure, physical talent.

Heading into 2009, Joyner said new GM Martin Mayhew does appear to have added quality to the secondary with Phillip Buchanon and Anthony Henry (though like many, Joyner thinks Henry may be destined for safety).

But Joyner calls Mayhew out on his approach to the O-line: "It doesn’t look as if he is approaching personnel roster stocking in this area any differently than it was approached under previous top management."

For example, the Lions ranked 31st in sacks allowed. That is bad enough, but their starting offensive linemen last year also had a combined Point of Attack (POA) run block win percentage of 79.8%. To give an idea of just how bad this is, if a single lineman put up that total in this metric, it would be a sure sign that he is a candidate for replacement.

Despite the inability to either pass block or run block with any consistency, the Lions look as if they are going to keep this line pretty much intact. The only change will be at left guard with Damion Cook taking over for Edwin Mulitalo, but Cook was on the Lions’ roster last year and doesn’t look to be much of an upgrade.

What is amazing to me is that Detroit didn’t even try to make wholesale changes here. The only offensive lineman they drafted was Nebraska offensive tackle Lydon Murtha in the seventh round. Free agency could offer some help, as former Washington right tackle Jon Jansen posted an 87.6% POA win rate with the Skins last year, but in order for him to hit the lineup, he’d have to replace last year’s No. 1 pick, Gosder Cherilus.

That could be an indication that the Lions are acknowledging that Cherilus can’t cut it, but that thought raises the question of what their front office staff looks for in linemen in the first place.

Joyner said it appears the Lions picked Cherilus in the first round in 2008 based on his size, because a breakdown of his performance showed "he never seemed to overwhelm defenders in pass blocking" despite "having a huge physical advantage over most of his competition." And that while Boston College did very little running, Cherilus in run-blocking "seemed to lack motivation and (looked like) he was trying to get by on physical talent alone."
The Lions downplayed what the tape said about Cherilus’s collegiate performance and instead said, “He’s big, wide and strong and that’s enough for us.” That mind-set gave them a guy with a 74.1% POA win rate (one of the lowest in the league not only at his position, but at any position), six false start penalties and four sacks allowed in only 13 starts.

Ouch!

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Teachable moment shows difference between Schwartz, Marinelli

Jim Schwartz had a long talk with the Lions' offense following two-minute drills Sunday in which the team scored no TDs, Tom Kowalski at MLive.com reports.

"There were some coaching points that came up in that, and I don't like to wait until we get off the field or wait until a meeting at night because it's a lot better to make (those points) right away," Schwartz said.
That's already a refreshing change from the approach of the last coach, Rod Marinelli. Having come in as a defensive line coach from Tampa Bay with no head coaching or even coordinator experience, Marinelli hired Mike Martz to run the offense -- and then Marinelli seemed to abdicate himself from any authority over or involvement in it.

It was a bad move on many levels, not the least of which being Martz tended to run an offense that when it failed -- which it often did due to a lack of talent -- put an even less talented defense back out onto the field far too often, for far too long. The results were predictable.

Schwartz comes from a defensive background, but realizes that he's the head coach of the entire team; and that in the big picture, the offenses and defenses should complement one another.

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QB-Day: the battle’s first skirmish

Sunday, August 2, 2009

Lions fans everywhere waited eagerly for news out of the Lions’ first full contact, full pads, full roster practice since the new Lions’ leadership took over.  Unfortunately, they had to wait just a little bit longer than fans of most other NFL teams, as the Lions are keeping a tight lid any on-field blogging/tweeting/smoke signals/etc

While there are many storylines worth watching, there was one question foremost in everyone’s mind: who will win the Battle of the Quarterbacks?  Our own Nate Caminata and Mike Mady did a great two-part preview in this premium story.  Now, though, the two generals have taken the field and, for the first time, waged war.  What were the results?

According to Nate Caminata, to the Grand Rapids Press’s Brian VanOchten, and the Detroit News’ Bob Wojnowski, the answer is clear: Duante Culpepper looks fine and everything, but if he wants to go into the season as the Lions’ starting quarterback, he’s going to have win an epic battle.  Stafford, from all accounts, looked extremely impressive on Saturday.  If this continues over the next several weeks—Stafford looking calm, poised, professional, and better than Culpepper—I don’t think that Jim Schwartz will take the Free Press’s Mike Rosenberg’s advice.

Hill, Salaam, Boldin fail conditioning drill

Saturday, August 1, 2009

Tom Kowalski at MLive.com is full of news from the first day of Lions' training camp.

Rookie DT Sammie Lee Hill, veteran OL Ephraim Salaam and receiver D.J. Boldin all failed a conditioning drill and were held out of first practices. All later took the drill, a 300-yard shuttle, later in the day and eventually passed, so they'll be back at practice Sunday.

"What's disappointing the most about it is that when they left here (in late June), they had the conditioning test and they passed,'' said Lions head coach Jim Schwartz.
Making a better first impression to start camp was DT Landon Cohen, who threw up 50 reps on the bench press at 225 pounds, which Schwartz called "super-human." He said the team overall has improved its upper-body strength, while "staying the game" on its lower-body strength.

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Schwartz gets fun shot in on his franchise QB to open camp

Tom Kowalski at MLive.com gives us this amusing nugget ...

After meeting with the team on rules, regulations and policies, Coach Jim Schwartz put up a Power Point presentation of what he did over the summer -- family photos, etc.

Writes Killer: "At the end, Schwartz said, 'I thought I had a fun vacation - until I saw this.'"

To the uproarious laughter of the team, Schwartz then put up a Power Point of some photos of how Lions rookie QB Matthew Stafford spent part of his summer vacation. Quite well, as you can see here.

"Yeah, that was pretty funny," said quarterback Matthew Stafford, who knew something was up. "I knew he was going to do it. As soon as he put up the 'Schwartz Family Photos' I knew it was coming."


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Jackson, Bryant Johnson miss start of camp with undisclosed maladies

Tom Kowalski at MLive.com reports that DT Grady Jackson and WR Bryant Johnson have missed the start of training camp today:

Jackson, a 12-year veteran defensive tackle, was placed on the Non-Football Illness list with an undisclosed health problem. Bryant, a seven-year veteran receiver, was placed on the Non-Football Injury list with "non-orthopedic" injuries suffered in a golf cart accident last month.

Lions general manager Martin Mayhew would not reveal details, other than to say he expects both players to be back "soon."
With Jackson I figure it's a veteran big guy who wants to limit how much preseason pounding he takes, also known as "Jerry Ball-itis."

The Bryant Johnson thing is potentially more concerning. Killer writes that the injuries, while not involving torn muscles or broken bones, "appear to be a long way from healing and recovery could be a lengthy process." Though it doesn't seem like Mayhew or Schwartz are that worried about it.

I had a horrifying thought run through my head today -- what if Calvin Johnson suffered an injury that required him to miss time? (Heaven forbid, knock on wood, etc.)

The Lions might have the worst receiving corps in football were that to happen.

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No-nonsense Schwartz opens camp with a test

As the Lions start training camp, step one for Coach Jim Schwartz is to test every player's upper-body strength in the bench-press and lower-body strength in the vertical jump, Nicholas Cotsonika reports at Freep.com.

"There's accountability for your conditioning level," coach Jim Schwartz said Friday. "Guys worked extremely hard. We had great participation in our off-season program. But they've been away for about a month, and you want to see where everybody is. You want to see who's been working, who hasn't."

Schwartz is sounding no-nonsense, and plans to go full-bore from the onset. The plays were put in place in June. As Cotsonika puts it, "The players should know what to do, and they need to be ready to do it. Schwartz said they will practice third-down, red-zone and two-minute situations in the first two days."
"There's no longer an easing-in process to training camp," Schwartz said. "You've got to be full-speed the first day. You go back 30 years in the NFL, maybe even more, guys were working at the bank or laying concrete or working in the shoe store in the off-season. These guys are professionals 12 months a year. They're paid well enough that they're paid to keep themselves in shape."

Schwartz earlier in the year talked about the quantifiable strength improvements for players from instituting an old-school Olympic-style weightlifting program. I'm sure part of the reason for his Day 1 strength tests is to be able to look back later and see who was working the hardest and who wasn't. The numbers don't lie for Schwartz.

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Pettigrew gets high praise from one of the best

Brandon Pettigrew has some high praise to live up to, now that he's been raved on by one of the best to ever play that position.

Nicholas Cotsonika at Freep.com reports that Lions Hall of Fame TE Charlie Sanders had many good things to say about the just-signed rookie Pettigrew as Brandon enters his first training camp.

“He’s a complete tight end,” Sanders said at the end of the off-season program. “He really is. The thing I like about him – his size, his speed, his strength. He doesn’t back down when it comes to blocking. He’s not intimidated. He has great hands – better hands than I thought – and great hand-eye.

“If there’s a negative right now, it would be, in my opinion, to learn to lower his body weight in terms of separating, coming out of breaks. It’s not so much speed as the ability to separate. He’s got all the tools.”
Pettigrew should have a key role as an every-down TE in Scott Linehan's offense, Cotsonika writes -- opening holes in the running game, making big catches and taking pressure off All-World WR Calvin Johnson.

“Now it’s just a matter of developing the packages for him, because he’s going to have to be accounted for,” Sanders said. “No linebacker is going to be able to check him one-on-one, and I don’t think there are too many safeties can do it."
From your lips to the Lions' scoreboard, Charlie.

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